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How to Cut Your New York General Liability Insurance
By Thousands of Dollars Each Year

To get the best rates and coverages for your contracting business you need to talk to and deal with an expert on contractors insurance. Contractors insurance is a specialty business, the nuances so technical that a generalist agent is simply not going to be able to offer the same insight as a specialist.

I spend my day either talking to contractors or talking to our insurance companies about contractors. I am very much in the game, I know all the rules, the ins and the outs, who is best in the marketplace for a given type of contractor, what to expect and how to prevent problems in an audit, etc.

My point is simply this, as a contractor you are going to have a lot of your money on the table for your contractors insurance package. You should know the rules of the game from the inside.

You Are On The Front Line Dealing With Insurance

If you are a small contractor, you or your spouse are on the front line dealing with insurance. If you are a mid-size contractor its either you or some lucky soul in your office that you delegate this onerous task off to. If you are a large contractor chances are good that you have a qualified person in your organization who is responsible for dealing with your insurance needs.

In all candor, it doesn't much matter what size your contracting operation is. The very nature of your business means that you will be spending a meaningful percentage of your revenue on your contractors insurance package.

Regardless of the size of your operation, the information in this report can help any contractor do a better job of cutting your general liability costs.

Insider Tips to have ready before you start shopping
  • Have a firm and quantifiable figure for your payroll for the next 12 months (your best estimate)
  • Have the cost of sub-contractors for the next 12 months (your best estimate)
  • Know your gross sales for the next 12 months (your best estimate)
  • Percentage of work subbed out for the next 12 months (best estimate) - how much is attributable to licensed trades - plumbing, electrical, etc?
  • Number of employees, broken down by classification for the next 12 months
  • If you have a website - know what's on it - does it accurately reflect the true nature of your business?
Without this information you are wasting your time as you will not get the best and most accurate quote.
  • Be prepared to explain your operation in detail, many contractors find it easier to have a prepared explanation which they can fax or email.

Your Website Can Cause Big Problems For You

As the economy has changed many contractors aren't carrying the amount of employees they once did, and with the expansion of the Internet, many contractors now have websites. However, these sites can cause significant problems for you.

By way of example, say you are an interior carpenter you do basements, kitchen and bath renovations etc. This is a pretty straightforward exposure and most underwriters will be comfortable with slot rating this - putting the risk in simple straightforward classification and off you go. However, your website says you do "Roofing, ground up construction including new house construction - no job too large or too small". The insurance company will have someone go to Google your name, the business name, reverse index your address and check the contractors Blue Book.

Simply put, make sure you and the insurance company are processing the same information. The website example takes a simple risk and makes it far more complicated - and far more expensive.
  • If you work on Condos, Townhouses, Tract Homes or apartments you should be able to document what percentage these projects represent.
  • Are you doing any work under a WRAP? If so, what percentage of your work does this represent?
  • Are you being ask to sign a contract or contracts? If you are looking to respond to contractual demands to produce the proper insurance - it seems logical and makes life easier for you and us to let us know what those requirements are.
  • Loss runs, Loss runs and more loss run requests. Most contractors call our office and not only have never had a loss, they have never seen a loss, and don't know anybody who has ever had one either. Unfortunately the claim data year after year from insurance companies do not support this sentiment. Somebody is having losses - there is an old statement made popular by accountants and bean counters that suggest that people lie but numbers don't.
As such, you have to be able to prove your pristine record - the better the loss runs, the better the price you can get. A learned agent with virginal loss runs can dramatically impact your contractor's insurance package pricing - No Question about it.

How Do Insurance Companies Determine My Rate?

There are a couple of different models that insurers use to determine the rates contractors pay. Those rates are then combined with endorsements to get to a bottom line annualized premium.

One model which is becoming more prominent for companies writing small contractors is to base the premium on a per man charge - there is an initial charge for the owner, and then additional employees are categorized as either Full Time or Part Time - many carriers consider an employee working less than 40 weeks per year as part time. This rating creates an opportunity for contractors that have seasonal spikes and resulting dips - as the rate for a part-timer is always less than the rate charged for a full-time employee.

With this rating plan, your company is given a primary rating classification - say carpentry for instance, and then other classifications are added based on the particular job duties of the employees. Generally, unless you pay the employee with 2 different checks for 2 different job duty classifications - the higher rating classification will apply.

There are some inherent advantages to this plan in that 1) The final premium is based on body count and not payroll or gross receipts while for many this is an inherent advantage it also presents a problem for those contracting clients who have a high employee turnover. When getting quotes on this plan do not count the clerical employees. The conversation should be something along the lines of 1 owner in the carpentry classification, 2 Full Time employees - carpentry, 1 part time employee painting, 3 clerical employees - not included.

Another plan that you see for smaller contractors is to base your General Liability on Payroll. In this rating plan, there is a flat payroll charge for the owner some companies use $17,000, others $33,200 as the flat payroll exposure for the owner - the fact that the owner makes more or less than this figure is immaterial.

After that, the payroll is assigned to the respective class codes. In this way, the more payroll you have - the more work you have - the greater the insurance company's exposure.

When you are giving payroll figures, it is best to give the field employees payroll, broken down by classification - do not include the owner, the support staff (clerical, sales, receptionist).

Here is where it can get messy. The owner, while not only the chief cook and bottle washer is more than likely the highest paid employee.

So when you are looking for quotes you call and say that payroll is $725,000. That is your bottom line figure - it makes sense and is logical. The longer you deal with insurance companies, you will see that logic and insurance are not mutually exclusive. If you get a quote for $725,000 you will be badly overpaying.

Owners Payroll $100,000
Field Employees $575,000
Clerical $50,000
TOTAL $725,000
Minus
Owner $83,000 (correct owner's payroll of $100,000 - $17,000)
Clerical $50,000
Actual Payroll $592,000

Or 22% overcharged.

Also, remember that payroll is based on a 12 month period, if you have a project that is going to last more than year say 18 months, you should pro-rate out your payroll for just the 12 months or you will be overcharged.

Also, if part of your work is under a WRAP (OCIP), do not include that portion of work in your payroll. In the scenario above, say $75,000 of the payroll was attributable to the WRAP. You would have said that the correct payroll was $515,000.

In New York, when the auditor comes in, you must be ready for him. As an agency we will give you a proprietary audit package and will help you with the process.

In theory, the audit is done to "true up" against what your estimated exposure was versus the actual payroll. Remember the auditor works for the insurance company and while given the construction economy there have been more return premium audits it is still not the norm in the last 23 years of what I have seen.

All Sales Are Not Created Equal

A sale is a sale when? When you invoice? When you are paid? In these trying economic times, you may have your money out on the street for 60, 90, or 120+ days - that is the reality of the marketplace. However, if you invoice it, when the insurance company auditor comes in he will view that as a sale and include that in your gross receipts. Even though the money hasn't hit your account.

The only way to correct this issue is to have the sales reflect what you have actually collected during the policy period.

Here is an example: Your insurance policy expires on 12/31/2011. You guessed or estimated that your sales for 2011 were going to be $750,000. It's November and you are already at $750,000. You have change orders for an additional $75,000 and you know that you are NOT going to collect the money in 2011. If you invoice these sales, you will pay premium on $825,000 (750,000 + 75,000). If your book reflect the $750,000 you have collected - you have no issue at the audit.

Handling Subs

The percentage of sub costs to your overall exposure can make an absolutely huge difference in your overall insurance costs. Every insurance company has a percentage of sub-contracted costs that they are comfortable with - go over it and you have entered the world where they consider you a General Contractor or G.C.

Every company has a different percentage for subs that they are comfortable with. For some it is 25% or less, some say 40% - but once you cross that threshold it is a bell that can be un-rung.

Here is how this can impact your premiums. Let's say for example that you are a carpenter who subs out 10% and are a one man operation. A reasonable premium for a risk like this would be in the range of $1000 -$1250 per year. However, if you sub out 30% and cross the company's guideline of no more than 25% subbed out, your premiums will rise by several thousand dollars and you will have much less ability to shop for competitive premiums as you are now in insurance world - a General Contractor.

I am not telling you to lie, I am telling you not to wing it and guess, blindly pulling a number out of your hat will do nothing but cause problems. Early on, I told you, it's the Boy Scouts motto - be prepared. Know your numbers going into the process.

Geographic or Zone Rating

Not much you can do about this one. Many insurance companies have different rates for different parts of the state, generally the more populated the area - the higher the rate will be. This directly relates back to the insurance company's loss experience in that particular area.

Minimum Premium & Minimum Earned Premium

Your will see contractor's insurance policies many times written with either a minimum premium (MP) or minimum earned premium. Minimum premium is just what the name states - the lowest price that an insurance company will accept for a particular class of business. Let's say that the company tells the agent or broker - the minimum premium is $5000. If you agree to those terms on Monday, and cancel on Tuesday your policy cost you $5000.

However, let's say that your agent tells you that the minimum premium is $5000 and you agree and tell him that your sales are $75,000. If you come in under the $75,000 in sales you don't get any money back, but if you go over you will owe. But the problem is really that your agent bought the policy for you under the wrong terms.

He should have worked backwards - what is the minimum premium - say $5000. Now what is the sales associated with that minimum premium. By mentioning a number first, your agent set the bar and backed you into a corner that you didn't have to be in. The reason - he or she was probably a generalist and not a contractor insurance agent.

Additional Insured Endorsements

Contractors are frequently required by contract to add various parties to their general liability policies as additional insured. For example, project owners typically require additional insured status from GC's, and GC's pass along the love and require Additional Insured status from the subs. Additional insureds have the rights of the an insured, including the right to defense from the insurer and the right to file a claim directly against the policy.

There are a number of ways to insure this either with a specific Additional Insured Endorsement or a Blanket Additional Insured Endorsement. The broadest coverage you can get is from a form on your policy CG 2010. You should have it or have a good explanation as to why you don't.

A note on this in order. Be careful what you sign, and who you give Additional Insured status to. Years ago we insured a painter - he paid us premium of less than $700 for the year, he got a job painting rooms inside a hotel. Good gig for him. However, the contract he signed made him legally responsible for any and all liability that happened at the hotel during the entire time he was there painting. This clearly was a nightmare.

Have Your Ducks In Order

Virtually every insurance company is going to do an inspection after the sale. The reason - you have them on the hook for a lot of money - millions of dollars or more is possible. The things that they are going to want to make sure line up are:
  1. They want to confirm the information on the application as being correct
  2. They want to make sure the risk they thought they were getting is in actuality the risk they are getting.
  3. They want to see what projects you are working on
  4. They want to check your payroll, sales and sub information and percentage of subs
  5. They will check your website
More on websites - I realize that many contractor sites are template type sites. If you are a carpenter - don't say you are a roofer. If you don't do Demolition - don't say you do. If you do, you better make sure the company underwriter is okay with it. Lest, as soon as they view your website, you will be getting a notice of cancellation. As sure as night following day.

Let's Make A Deal

Are there ways to cut your insurance premiums? Absolutely - this is more so in today's marketplace than in recent memory. Many companies will give the agent up to 25% or more discretion to alter the priced as needed - without even picking up the phone. Here size matters - as premiums increase - underwriters have much more flexibility when it comes to credits and deviated premiums. Another credit that many don't take advantage of - a package or multi line credit. Many insurance companies will give you an automatic credit for having your General Liability with the same company as your Commercial Auto Insurance.

It's just like when we were dating or more aptly in my case trying to date - you never know the underwriter might say Yes to a policy credit.

In Closing

Insuring contractors is not like other types of insurance - it is a self-contained specialty. If an agent tells you something different - find another agent. Plain and simple.

The very nature of what you do is for more hazardous and complex than many agents will admit to. Here ignorance is anything but bliss.

As a contractor everything you have is on the line backed by your insurance program. You and your agent have to get it right.
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